Comments on: New skills for learning professionals http://www.informl.com/2009/07/01/new-skills-for-learning-professionals/ from Jay Cross and Internet Time Group Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:02:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Mollybob http://www.informl.com/2009/07/01/new-skills-for-learning-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-2589 Mollybob Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:08:13 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=2046#comment-2589 I agree that number 2 is so important. If we can't diretly relate what we are doing to the business then we've got some problems... everyone needs to know why they're doing something, so we need to show that we're addressing a legitimate need. Your technology steward/moderator points in the chart are useful too, but I have alot of trouble getting other traditional L&D people to understand them, they don't see the need yet, and sometimes want to hold the mantle as "trainer knows all"... which in this environment, they don't need to (and infact, should not IMO) Thanks for provoking some thought. I agree that number 2 is so important. If we can’t diretly relate what we are doing to the business then we’ve got some problems… everyone needs to know why they’re doing something, so we need to show that we’re addressing a legitimate need.

Your technology steward/moderator points in the chart are useful too, but I have alot of trouble getting other traditional L&D people to understand them, they don’t see the need yet, and sometimes want to hold the mantle as “trainer knows all”… which in this environment, they don’t need to (and infact, should not IMO)

Thanks for provoking some thought.

]]> By: Jay Cross http://www.informl.com/2009/07/01/new-skills-for-learning-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-2518 Jay Cross Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:02:54 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=2046#comment-2518 Eric, no one disagrees, but no one is fully on board yet, either. The people will come from within and outside of traditional training organizations. There's no comprehensive curriculum but that's the nature of the beast. Many of us are providing pieces of the puzzle. Work Literacy, social media sites, and togetherLearn are all involved. Eric, no one disagrees, but no one is fully on board yet, either. The people will come from within and outside of traditional training organizations. There’s no comprehensive curriculum but that’s the nature of the beast. Many of us are providing pieces of the puzzle. Work Literacy, social media sites, and togetherLearn are all involved.

]]> By: Eric Davidove http://www.informl.com/2009/07/01/new-skills-for-learning-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-2517 Eric Davidove Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:48:33 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=2046#comment-2517 Jay, when you speak with your client organizations about the new skills required by their learning and development professionals, what is the reaction? Also, do you think that most companies will be able to re-skill existing people or will they have to find people from other disciplines / functional areas? Has anyone created a curriculum or learning journey that helps learning professionals acquire the new skills? Jay, when you speak with your client organizations about the new skills required by their learning and development professionals, what is the reaction? Also, do you think that most companies will be able to re-skill existing people or will they have to find people from other disciplines / functional areas? Has anyone created a curriculum or learning journey that helps learning professionals acquire the new skills?

]]> By: July Informal Learning Hotlist — Informal Learning Blog http://www.informl.com/2009/07/01/new-skills-for-learning-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-2512 July Informal Learning Hotlist — Informal Learning Blog Sun, 02 Aug 2009 06:08:22 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=2046#comment-2512 [...] New skills for learning professionals- Informal Learning, July 1, 2009 [...] [...] New skills for learning professionals- Informal Learning, July 1, 2009 [...]

]]> By: New Skills for Learning Professionals « Beyond Distance Research Alliance Blog http://www.informl.com/2009/07/01/new-skills-for-learning-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-2471 New Skills for Learning Professionals « Beyond Distance Research Alliance Blog Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:17:30 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=2046#comment-2471 [...] Jay Cross believes that learning professionals need to be proactive with regard to emerging technologies, and points to the importance of the ‘community technology steward’ – described in the forthcoming book by Etienne Wenger, Nancy White and John Smith, Digital Habitats: Stewarding Technology for Communities. Technology stewards are ‘people with enough experience of the workings of a community to understand its technology needs and enough experience with technology to take leadership in addressing those needs’. I agree with Cross’ prediction of ‘job enrichment and greater responsibilities for learning professionals who take on the challenge.’ [...] [...] Jay Cross believes that learning professionals need to be proactive with regard to emerging technologies, and points to the importance of the ‘community technology steward’ – described in the forthcoming book by Etienne Wenger, Nancy White and John Smith, Digital Habitats: Stewarding Technology for Communities. Technology stewards are ‘people with enough experience of the workings of a community to understand its technology needs and enough experience with technology to take leadership in addressing those needs’. I agree with Cross’ prediction of ‘job enrichment and greater responsibilities for learning professionals who take on the challenge.’ [...]

]]> By: electro-textual » Blog Archive » Psst.. knowledge-worker? You have mad skills? http://www.informl.com/2009/07/01/new-skills-for-learning-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-2424 electro-textual » Blog Archive » Psst.. knowledge-worker? You have mad skills? Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:19:25 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=2046#comment-2424 [...] Jay Cross revisits the topic and covers a big range of teaching roles including: writer, presenter, designer, producer, moderator, connector and “learnscape architect” (i like that last one!!) [...] [...] Jay Cross revisits the topic and covers a big range of teaching roles including: writer, presenter, designer, producer, moderator, connector and “learnscape architect” (i like that last one!!) [...]

]]> By: Roles in the ‘New’ Training Org | trainingwreck http://www.informl.com/2009/07/01/new-skills-for-learning-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-2423 Roles in the ‘New’ Training Org | trainingwreck Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:49:47 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=2046#comment-2423 [...] musings concerning this concept via Harold Jarche, Michael Hanley, Dave Wilkins and Jay Cross (here too for another from Jay [...] [...] musings concerning this concept via Harold Jarche, Michael Hanley, Dave Wilkins and Jay Cross (here too for another from Jay [...]

]]> By: Full Circle Associates » 4 Meta Skills for Learning Professionals http://www.informl.com/2009/07/01/new-skills-for-learning-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-2418 Full Circle Associates » 4 Meta Skills for Learning Professionals Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:45:06 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=2046#comment-2418 [...] Jay Cross - Informal Learning blog. [...] [...] Jay Cross – Informal Learning blog. [...]

]]> By: links for 2009-07-02 | Adventures in Corporate Education http://www.informl.com/2009/07/01/new-skills-for-learning-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-2415 links for 2009-07-02 | Adventures in Corporate Education Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:07:32 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=2046#comment-2415 [...] New skills for learning professionals — Informal Learning Blog (tags: web2.0 learning professional) [...] [...] New skills for learning professionals — Informal Learning Blog (tags: web2.0 learning professional) [...]

]]> By: Learning Professionals' Skills 2.0 - Learning Circuits Big Question July 2009 | E-Learning Curve Blog http://www.informl.com/2009/07/01/new-skills-for-learning-professionals/comment-page-1/#comment-2414 Learning Professionals' Skills 2.0 - Learning Circuits Big Question July 2009 | E-Learning Curve Blog Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:34:31 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=2046#comment-2414 [...] Harold Jarche and Jay Cross have already addressed the “learning” part of the discussion with informative and illuminating [...] [...] Harold Jarche and Jay Cross have already addressed the “learning” part of the discussion with informative and illuminating [...]

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