Three-and-a-half minute rant about leveling the preacher-and-congregation model of learning in favor of recognizing we’re brothers and sisters here, not parents and children. Geez. YouTube.
Readers, is a shorty video like this a worthwhile means of sharing information? Would you find a series of these useful?
Please rate the video if you go to YouTube for it. Be brutally honest. I am looking for feedback.
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Jay – you wanted to know whether short videos like this are worthwhile means of sharing information. For me, a video is worthwhile only if you are showing things – images, animations, people, graphs, etc. I would rather have a text piece instead of a talking heads video.
You sound/look as though you’ve been reading Paolo Freire.
What about when people are reluctant to learn? How do collaborate then?
I like this format of vlogging: it works for me as someone who spends too much time reading a screen. I love informal learning – and I like the notion of people first….learner second. Thanks.
Thanks for this – I like the message. You might want to look at our new programme for schools, Partners in Communication: http://www.partnersincommunication.org.uk.
Although personally an anarchist I had to laugh at your analogy of taking the signs and rules off roads. I have lived and driven very successfully in countries where there are no road rules or signs. The accident and death rates are horrendous. The roads don’t belong to polite little old ladies, the meek and the slow, they belong to the quick and the agressive – those who are confident and in control, or believe they are.
Rules for learning (to my mind), although I disagree with the sage on the stage mindset, have been made to protect the slow, the weak and the unmotivated, and put a brake on the agressive, confident and often masculine. But even without rules the “invulnerables” in society, as described by Claude Brown, will always succeed and achieve, given half a chance.
Finally I’m amused that with your YouTube offering you (hypocritically?) also adopt the role of the preacher/sage on the stage: its sometimes the only way to get an idea across. *grin*
Jay,
Thanks for the vlog. I personally like audio as I can do other things whilst taking in the content. So despite the video aspect, I really didn’t appreciate the visual component (not that it was bad – I just didn’t watch after the first 15 seconds).
The message was great. I enjoyed the driving/removing street signs analogy and despite the previous negative comments (context is important), can see the relevance to training.
I like the blog.
Cheers,
Duane Davis.
Jay
You asked for brutal feedback…
Quick note on style. You look bored until you smile at the end. Makes you much less engaging than you are in person.
Quick thought on content. Trouble with the video blog is it has no links. You cannot validate the content of what is said quickly and efficiently. Evinced above by John’s disbelieving comment that Hans’s ideas actually work.
If you had done this in text you could have slung a link or two in to support the idea. Like this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_space
Validation is going to be a key issue if you do away with the authority figures. But since the argument from authority is usually the last refuge of a scoundrel trying to sell you something. I wont weep for their demise.
Loved the linking in of shared space to learning. I’m not sure the world is ready for it yet.
More on that here:
http://reedlearning.blogspot.com/2009/03/no-more-learners.html
I’m afraid there are still just too many people who need to be told. But I could just be getting old and grumpy…
Love the frankness & honesty you provide in this short flick – the “bare-ness” of the talking head (i.e. vlog) reflects that as well.
I’d check out short videos like this for a number little “aha” moments to enhance what I already know, rather than wait for a longer & flashier presentation that I need to “sift” for inspiration…
Keep it up – it works for me!
Hi Jay
I think the analogy is not very helpful as I also can’t see how you assume that all people will then tend toward the cautious if you take away speed limits as you suggest. There is a reason why these things are introduced. Have you ever been to Calcutta or Delhi and tried to get anywhere? Traffic accidents are really high and it takes a VERY long time to get across town.
Also you are not acknowledging that knowledge does exist that we need to share from one to another in some way, and sometimes sitting around just chatting it through can’t do that effectively. I’ve done both, working in climate change, asking people what they think about it and hearing scientists talk about what is expected. We need to learn the facts (even if they are changeable) and sometimes the best way is just to sit still and listen for a while, and then talk it through. But you’re right, we do need to have the time to talk it through – make the presentation standing up, sure – it’s clearest – but then let’s all talk it through at round tables afterwards to bring everyone’s knowledge on board- not individual Q&A at the speaker
The other point is that people learn differently. I am much more likely to learn through reading quietly than by talking – though talking is more fun and makes a lasting impression due to character. Others will be opposite. Are books then ‘preacher’ also in this categorisation?
I’m underwhelmed. No-one says “preacher in the pulpit” is the way to do it. You’re attacking a straw man. You just come across as someone who read a book (may be Peter Senge, maybe Paolo Freire, maybe Ivan Illich) twenty years after everyone else.
Jay, I would personally prefer text or a podcast.
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