Comments on: Get Out of the Training Business http://www.informl.com/2009/01/31/get-out-of-the-training-business/ from Jay Cross and Internet Time Group Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:02:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: eLearning Learning Hot List Feb 1-14 http://www.informl.com/2009/01/31/get-out-of-the-training-business/comment-page-1/#comment-2133 eLearning Learning Hot List Feb 1-14 Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:04:28 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=1690#comment-2133 [...] Get Out of the Training Business [...] [...] Get Out of the Training Business [...]

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]]> By: Rodolpho Arruda http://www.informl.com/2009/01/31/get-out-of-the-training-business/comment-page-1/#comment-1876 Rodolpho Arruda Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:17:25 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=1690#comment-1876 "Oh, sorry Mr. Middle Manager, I know you've been doing mentoring, coaching for some years now... I didn't mean my team and I are going to speak with your customers nor cut your department costs without your knowledge and consent." "Oh, sorry Mr. Sales VP, I didn't mean we are going to discontinue the sales excellence program. If you are saying your folks need to be in the classroom for three weeks to learn how to sell our very complex solutions, that's what you're gonna get! By the way, it's been working like that for the last 10 or 15 years... so why change it now?" "No, Mr. CIO, we are not using Skype at all! I know we have strict IT policies in regard of software based VoIP. We know the impact of such application into our office's network, and how that's going to impact our costs." "Yes, I'm serious. I want every single one of your team being able to help other people across the country through social networks. I want you to install computers in the assembly line so people can access blogs and wikis while they are fixing those bumpers into the chassis." “Oh, sorry Mr. Middle Manager, I know you’ve been doing mentoring, coaching for some years now… I didn’t mean my team and I are going to speak with your customers nor cut your department costs without your knowledge and consent.”

“Oh, sorry Mr. Sales VP, I didn’t mean we are going to discontinue the sales excellence program. If you are saying your folks need to be in the classroom for three weeks to learn how to sell our very complex solutions, that’s what you’re gonna get! By the way, it’s been working like that for the last 10 or 15 years… so why change it now?”

“No, Mr. CIO, we are not using Skype at all! I know we have strict IT policies in regard of software based VoIP. We know the impact of such application into our office’s network, and how that’s going to impact our costs.”

“Yes, I’m serious. I want every single one of your team being able to help other people across the country through social networks. I want you to install computers in the assembly line so people can access blogs and wikis while they are fixing those bumpers into the chassis.”

]]> By: Nicole Fougere http://www.informl.com/2009/01/31/get-out-of-the-training-business/comment-page-1/#comment-1873 Nicole Fougere Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:37:57 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=1690#comment-1873 Hi Jay, I read your post and love the angle you take with dumping the Training department and trainers becoming mentors and coaches. It may even add a revenue stream to struggling companies, who could actually put together material to on-sell. Who knows? Thanks for your thoughts! Your article got me thinking about how free services are awesome, but I think they are still limiting when it comes to having a fully functioning learning environment. I wrote a blog along these lines, in response to your post which is here if you would like a read: http://blog.litmos.com/2009/02/fundamental-shift-in-way-we-conduct.html Cheers, Nicole Hi Jay,

I read your post and love the angle you take with dumping the Training department and trainers becoming mentors and coaches. It may even add a revenue stream to struggling companies, who could actually put together material to on-sell. Who knows? Thanks for your thoughts!

Your article got me thinking about how free services are awesome, but I think they are still limiting when it comes to having a fully functioning learning environment.
I wrote a blog along these lines, in response to your post which is here if you would like a read:

http://blog.litmos.com/2009/02/fundamental-shift-in-way-we-conduct.html

Cheers,
Nicole

]]> By: Rob Kocher http://www.informl.com/2009/01/31/get-out-of-the-training-business/comment-page-1/#comment-1871 Rob Kocher Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:31:49 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=1690#comment-1871 What is holding companies back from this now, fear? In a perfect world we would see all of the things mentioned in your "pitch." The fear of all of this information getting out to everyone is a fear of loss of control and that, to me, is the bottom line. Management will lose control and those individual thinkers on the line, doing the rote work, will be able to act upon their thoughts. What a novel concept. For those companies that rely on a specific culture, this would also impact the culture that they have spent millions on keeping in tact. While I agree that this is where we need to go, I just cannot see Corporate USA actually taking the leap of faith. I won't start believing until I see your Fortune 100 companies allow employees to embrace social networking sites, such as Facebook and LinkedIn. Thanks for you insights! What is holding companies back from this now, fear?
In a perfect world we would see all of the things mentioned in your “pitch.” The fear of all of this information getting out to everyone is a fear of loss of control and that, to me, is the bottom line. Management will lose control and those individual thinkers on the line, doing the rote work, will be able to act upon their thoughts. What a novel concept.

For those companies that rely on a specific culture, this would also impact the culture that they have spent millions on keeping in tact.

While I agree that this is where we need to go, I just cannot see Corporate USA actually taking the leap of faith. I won’t start believing until I see your Fortune 100 companies allow employees to embrace social networking sites, such as Facebook and LinkedIn.

Thanks for you insights!

]]> By: Michael D. Solomon http://www.informl.com/2009/01/31/get-out-of-the-training-business/comment-page-1/#comment-1868 Michael D. Solomon Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:54:55 +0000 http://www.informl.com/?p=1690#comment-1868 Jay, Great piece. I agree that this is a transformational time and that business as usual is counterproductive. I would posit that this is bigger than a change in economic and social modality. Humanity is at its crossroads and must evolve to create a sustainable and progressive society. I've written a proof for this, based on a the behavior of light, at the website listed above. Jay, Great piece. I agree that this is a transformational time and that business as usual is counterproductive. I would posit that this is bigger than a change in economic and social modality. Humanity is at its crossroads and must evolve to create a sustainable and progressive society. I’ve written a proof for this, based on a the behavior of light, at the website listed above.

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