Comments on: The human performance landscape http://www.informl.com/2007/10/11/the-human-performance-landscape/ from Jay Cross and Internet Time Group Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:02:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Ray Tolley http://www.informl.com/2007/10/11/the-human-performance-landscape/comment-page-1/#comment-899 Ray Tolley Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:29:34 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=828#comment-899 A quiet word to Ray - 'LEAD' is a metal unless you mean the verb 'to lead' - LED is the past tense of 'to lead'. However, more seriously, do you not think that collaboration has a much more significant impact on learning processes than the diagram would suggest, and what of reflection? In today's world are not all of these predominantly e-learning processes - so why not remove the 'e-' altogether? Jay, I was very moved by many sections of your book. In particular I often quote your page on the 'Googleplex' when talking about the design of e-learning environments and in particular e-Portfolios. A most helpful book! Ray T A quiet word to Ray – ‘LEAD’ is a metal unless you mean the verb ‘to lead’ – LED is the past tense of ‘to lead’.
However, more seriously, do you not think that collaboration has a much more significant impact on learning processes than the diagram would suggest, and what of reflection? In today’s world are not all of these predominantly e-learning processes – so why not remove the ‘e-’ altogether?
Jay, I was very moved by many sections of your book. In particular I often quote your page on the ‘Googleplex’ when talking about the design of e-learning environments and in particular e-Portfolios. A most helpful book!
Ray T

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By: The Knowledge Management Landscape at Sims Learning Connections http://www.informl.com/2007/10/11/the-human-performance-landscape/comment-page-1/#comment-896 The Knowledge Management Landscape at Sims Learning Connections Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:32:12 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=828#comment-896 [...] October update, prompted by feedback in comments here and at Jay Cross’s first alternative view: When viewing the ovals, mentally insert “the methods and goals of…” in front of [...] [...] October update, prompted by feedback in comments here and at Jay Cross’s first alternative view: When viewing the ovals, mentally insert “the methods and goals of…” in front of [...]

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By: Harold Jarche http://www.informl.com/2007/10/11/the-human-performance-landscape/comment-page-1/#comment-898 Harold Jarche Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:56:29 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=828#comment-898 Thanks, Ray. Now I have the right perspective and will take another look :-) Thanks, Ray. Now I have the right perspective and will take another look :-)

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By: Ray Sims http://www.informl.com/2007/10/11/the-human-performance-landscape/comment-page-1/#comment-897 Ray Sims Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:30:21 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=828#comment-897 Harold (and Jay): I'll admit to defeat on the diagram as I'm zero-for-three with Stephen, Jay, and now you...all folks that I have great respect for regarding opinion. And, beating on the poor dead horse...what I was trying to get to, and obviously was too obtuse with, is a 'class' called "methods". As in "the methods of library of science" and "the methods of informal learning", etc. And then making an attempt at grouping some of the methods -- e.g. among the methods of Learning & Development are e-learning (in the self-study sense) and instructor lead. Ray Harold (and Jay): I’ll admit to defeat on the diagram as I’m zero-for-three with Stephen, Jay, and now you…all folks that I have great respect for regarding opinion.

And, beating on the poor dead horse…what I was trying to get to, and obviously was too obtuse with, is a ‘class’ called “methods”. As in “the methods of library of science” and “the methods of informal learning”, etc. And then making an attempt at grouping some of the methods — e.g. among the methods of Learning & Development are e-learning (in the self-study sense) and instructor lead.

Ray

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By: Jay Cross http://www.informl.com/2007/10/11/the-human-performance-landscape/comment-page-1/#comment-895 Jay Cross Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:46:20 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=828#comment-895 For starters, KM, OD, etc. are all conscious attempts to improve human performance. I'll try my hand at sketching this... For starters, KM, OD, etc. are all conscious attempts to improve human performance. I’ll try my hand at sketching this…

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By: Harold Jarche http://www.informl.com/2007/10/11/the-human-performance-landscape/comment-page-1/#comment-900 Harold Jarche Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:53:43 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=828#comment-900 I have to admit that Ray's diagram doesn't make sense to me either. The blue ovals are not in the same class (e.g. informal learning & library of science), so I don't understand the relationships that this diagram is supposed to show. Your diagram makes sense to me. It shows the individual's relationship to sources of information/knowledge, filtered through individual biases. An area of interest for me is the relationship (or lack of) between all the perspectives on your elephant. What is in common between KM, HPT, OD, etc and where are the major divergences. This could make for an informative diagram and might cause some interesting conversations between the fields. I don't enough about all of these to show these connections, but perhaps someone will take this on as a thesis topic ;-) I have to admit that Ray’s diagram doesn’t make sense to me either. The blue ovals are not in the same class (e.g. informal learning & library of science), so I don’t understand the relationships that this diagram is supposed to show.

Your diagram makes sense to me. It shows the individual’s relationship to sources of information/knowledge, filtered through individual biases.

An area of interest for me is the relationship (or lack of) between all the perspectives on your elephant. What is in common between KM, HPT, OD, etc and where are the major divergences. This could make for an informative diagram and might cause some interesting conversations between the fields. I don’t enough about all of these to show these connections, but perhaps someone will take this on as a thesis topic ;-)

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