Done! Comments on: Free the learners! http://www.informl.com/2007/03/11/free-the-learners/ from Jay Cross and Internet Time Group Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:02:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: 给学习者自由! | 教育中文翻译 http://www.informl.com/2007/03/11/free-the-learners/comment-page-1/#comment-726 给学习者自由! | 教育中文翻译 Mon, 28 May 2007 16:51:26 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=721#comment-726 [...] 发布时间:March 11,2007 原文链接:Free the learner! 原文作者:Jay Cross 翻 译:Paula [...] [...] 发布时间:March 11,2007 原文链接:Free the learner! 原文作者:Jay Cross 翻 译:Paula [...]

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By: RaySims学习思考(1):堡垒,有大门的社区和自由自在式学习 | 教育中文翻译 http://www.informl.com/2007/03/11/free-the-learners/comment-page-1/#comment-725 RaySims学习思考(1):堡垒,有大门的社区和自由自在式学习 | 教育中文翻译 Mon, 28 May 2007 16:49:13 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=721#comment-725 [...] 近来,这个比喻也被运用在动物身上,比如Tom Haskin的“自由自在的鸡 ”,“自由的可能性 ”和“重返空地 ”(2007年2月、3月),Jay Cross的“给学习者自由!”(2007年3月)。 [...] [...] 近来,这个比喻也被运用在动物身上,比如Tom Haskin的“自由自在的鸡 ”,“自由的可能性 ”和“重返空地 ”(2007年2月、3月),Jay Cross的“给学习者自由!”(2007年3月)。 [...]

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By: 教育中文翻译 » 堡垒,有大门的社区和自由自在式学习 http://www.informl.com/2007/03/11/free-the-learners/comment-page-1/#comment-724 教育中文翻译 » 堡垒,有大门的社区和自由自在式学习 Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:25:32 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=721#comment-724 [...] 近来,这个比喻也被运用在动物身上,比如Tom Haskin的“自由自在的鸡 ”,“自由的可能性 ”和“重返空地 ”(2007年2月、3月),Jay Cross的“给学习者自由!”(2007年3月)。 [...] [...] 近来,这个比喻也被运用在动物身上,比如Tom Haskin的“自由自在的鸡 ”,“自由的可能性 ”和“重返空地 ”(2007年2月、3月),Jay Cross的“给学习者自由!”(2007年3月)。 [...]

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By: Fortress, Gated Community, and Free-range Learning at Sims Learning Connections http://www.informl.com/2007/03/11/free-the-learners/comment-page-1/#comment-723 Fortress, Gated Community, and Free-range Learning at Sims Learning Connections Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:32:27 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=721#comment-723 [...] More recently the metaphor went to the animals; for example with Tom Haskin’s: Free range chickens, Feasibility of offering the free range and Back to the barnyard (February and March 2007) and Jay’s Free the learners! (March 2007). [...] [...] More recently the metaphor went to the animals; for example with Tom Haskin’s: Free range chickens, Feasibility of offering the free range and Back to the barnyard (February and March 2007) and Jay’s Free the learners! (March 2007). [...]

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By: Mike Berta http://www.informl.com/2007/03/11/free-the-learners/comment-page-1/#comment-722 Mike Berta Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:29:22 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=721#comment-722 Jay, it has been some time, but still reading right along. I just had a conversation with a potential business client that touted her LMS and the extensive monitoring needed to measure "seat time". All I could think was "assess in classes". Seat time does not equate to learning, the sooner the corporate training unprofessionals get to this point, the sooner employees will learn and perform. Your words about expectation are very true and a struggle I've had for sometime with management. Additionally, I listened to a podcast about blogging in academia. It was an interesting discourse on the topic of informal exploration and use in the academy. I laughed as one academic talked about the dangers of opening knowledge up beyond the faculty. The thought that some schools feel they need to limit knowledge to retain value is archaic and outmoded. Jay, it has been some time, but still reading right along. I just had a conversation with a potential business client that touted her LMS and the extensive monitoring needed to measure “seat time”. All I could think was “assess in classes”. Seat time does not equate to learning, the sooner the corporate training unprofessionals get to this point, the sooner employees will learn and perform. Your words about expectation are very true and a struggle I’ve had for sometime with management.

Additionally, I listened to a podcast about blogging in academia. It was an interesting discourse on the topic of informal exploration and use in the academy. I laughed as one academic talked about the dangers of opening knowledge up beyond the faculty. The thought that some schools feel they need to limit knowledge to retain value is archaic and outmoded.

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By: JQ http://www.informl.com/2007/03/11/free-the-learners/comment-page-1/#comment-721 JQ Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:32:28 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=721#comment-721 A couple of weeks ago, a team in our grad school presented implementing Covey's 8th Habit. When asked if the company should make the classes mandatory to Covey, the reasonable answer is "no." For one, Covey's idea is empowering the employee, so why disempower them by forcing them to take a class. Second, do you think that an employee will learn if they don't want to learn? Doubtful. As a former teacher, my experience tells me that learning is an openness to ideas, a desire, and convincing through dialogue that learning is important. A couple of weeks ago, a team in our grad school presented implementing Covey’s 8th Habit. When asked if the company should make the classes mandatory to Covey, the reasonable answer is “no.” For one, Covey’s idea is empowering the employee, so why disempower them by forcing them to take a class. Second, do you think that an employee will learn if they don’t want to learn? Doubtful. As a former teacher, my experience tells me that learning is an openness to ideas, a desire, and convincing through dialogue that learning is important.

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By: Tom Haskins http://www.informl.com/2007/03/11/free-the-learners/comment-page-1/#comment-720 Tom Haskins Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:43:07 +0000 http://informl.com/?p=721#comment-720 These are great insights Jay! It never occurred to me that old line managers wanted to use an LMS to control all learning. Hopefully there will be an asylum for them to work through their unresolved power issues -- after they no longer have opportunities to tyrannize employees. When I've consulted public school districts, I raised the "fear of evacuation" issue that locks down schools into tight conformity and control. I assumed the fear was based on the students immaturity. Now that you point out many managers' fear of a "flight to the border", I'm realizing the issue is independent of the learner's age or maturity - it's about the control freak's need to dominate. As for what you say about empowering employees to do their best, YES!. I'll vote for you when you run for President! Tom ;-) These are great insights Jay! It never occurred to me that old line managers wanted to use an LMS to control all learning. Hopefully there will be an asylum for them to work through their unresolved power issues — after they no longer have opportunities to tyrannize employees. When I’ve consulted public school districts, I raised the “fear of evacuation” issue that locks down schools into tight conformity and control. I assumed the fear was based on the students immaturity. Now that you point out many managers’ fear of a “flight to the border”, I’m realizing the issue is independent of the learner’s age or maturity – it’s about the control freak’s need to dominate. As for what you say about empowering employees to do their best, YES!. I’ll vote for you when you run for President!
Tom ;-)

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